Szyfrant Zielonka pracował dla Chin?
10 年 9 个月 前 #3536
由 Camillvs
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No ja bym powiedział, że to właśnie nasi ponieśli stratę, a nie "naszym" się udało...
Nieważne kim jest dany Chińczyk, ale zawsze będzie mniej lub bardziej oddany idei chińskiej państwowości i prędzej będzie szpiegować dla Chin niż się odda służbom europejskim. A jak jest z nami? Ten Zielonka miał akurat powód, winnego widzę tylko w Macierewiczu, ale jak jest z nami samymi?
Nieważne kim jest dany Chińczyk, ale zawsze będzie mniej lub bardziej oddany idei chińskiej państwowości i prędzej będzie szpiegować dla Chin niż się odda służbom europejskim. A jak jest z nami? Ten Zielonka miał akurat powód, winnego widzę tylko w Macierewiczu, ale jak jest z nami samymi?
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10 年 9 个月 前 #3539
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Gazeta.pl twierdzi, ze Zielonka przebywa w Szanghaju:
http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80273,7804532,Polski_szyfrant_w_Chinach_.html
Moze trzeba by wrzucic jego zdjecie na 猫扑...
http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80273,7804532,Polski_szyfrant_w_Chinach_.html
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10 年 9 个月 前 #3540
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Za źródłem polskich gazet ...
Beijing nice to its moles
When its foreign moles have been unmasked, Beijing takes care of them, welcoming them to China and finding jobs for them as advisors.
The tragic plane crash that claimed the lives of Poland’s President and a swath of political and military top brass on April 10 took the spotlight off a spy scandal that the Polish Intelligence services Sluzba Wywiadu Wojskowego, SWW, has been grappling with for more than a year.
The affair concerns the disappearance in May 2009 of Stefan Zielonka, an officer of the SWW. Zielonka was very familiar with NATO’s encryption and coding systems and with the Polish intelligence service's networks abroad.
The Chinese State Security Service, the Guoanbu, is believed to have exfiltrated Zielonka back to China. Much in the same way that the Soviet Union did during the Cold War, Beijing operates a special program to find new lives for Western diplomats or intelligence agents who have been burned while serving as its moles. Zielonka is believed to have been given a home in the Shanghai region along with his wife and child, who disappeared shortly after he did. Once they have settled down, the Western new arrivals carry on working for Chinese intelligence, and are given advisory posts in departments responsible for intelligence-gathering in their country of origin. Intelligence Online has been told that several European countries have “lost” agents this way in the past few years.
Beijing nice to its moles
When its foreign moles have been unmasked, Beijing takes care of them, welcoming them to China and finding jobs for them as advisors.
The tragic plane crash that claimed the lives of Poland’s President and a swath of political and military top brass on April 10 took the spotlight off a spy scandal that the Polish Intelligence services Sluzba Wywiadu Wojskowego, SWW, has been grappling with for more than a year.
The affair concerns the disappearance in May 2009 of Stefan Zielonka, an officer of the SWW. Zielonka was very familiar with NATO’s encryption and coding systems and with the Polish intelligence service's networks abroad.
The Chinese State Security Service, the Guoanbu, is believed to have exfiltrated Zielonka back to China. Much in the same way that the Soviet Union did during the Cold War, Beijing operates a special program to find new lives for Western diplomats or intelligence agents who have been burned while serving as its moles. Zielonka is believed to have been given a home in the Shanghai region along with his wife and child, who disappeared shortly after he did. Once they have settled down, the Western new arrivals carry on working for Chinese intelligence, and are given advisory posts in departments responsible for intelligence-gathering in their country of origin. Intelligence Online has been told that several European countries have “lost” agents this way in the past few years.
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10 年 8 个月 前 #3573
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http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/2169153,11,szyfrant_stefan_zielonka_zyje_to_pewne_na_90_procent,item.html
oraz za samym Intelligence Online
"In its last issue, Intelligence Online reported on the case of Stefan Zielonka, a Polish military intelligence officer who disappeared in May, 2009 and appeared to have been re-located in China by Chinese security services. Picked up by the Polish news agency PAP and several Polish dailies Intelligence Online’s report took an unexpected turn. On April 27, a body with a rucksack containing bank statements in the name of Stefan Zielonka was found in the Vistula River in Warsaw. The body had been in the river for a long time and was all but unrecognizeable but the papers were miraculously intact. Despite that bizarre fact, and without waiting for the results of DNA tests that would formally identify the corpse, the state secretary in charge of intelligence agencies in the prime minister’s office, Jacek Cichocki, said he was “sure” the body was that of the missing agent. The Zielonka affair clearly embarrases Warsaw. Indeed, Zielonka was highly familiar with NATO’s encryption and codes systems."
oraz za samym Intelligence Online
"In its last issue, Intelligence Online reported on the case of Stefan Zielonka, a Polish military intelligence officer who disappeared in May, 2009 and appeared to have been re-located in China by Chinese security services. Picked up by the Polish news agency PAP and several Polish dailies Intelligence Online’s report took an unexpected turn. On April 27, a body with a rucksack containing bank statements in the name of Stefan Zielonka was found in the Vistula River in Warsaw. The body had been in the river for a long time and was all but unrecognizeable but the papers were miraculously intact. Despite that bizarre fact, and without waiting for the results of DNA tests that would formally identify the corpse, the state secretary in charge of intelligence agencies in the prime minister’s office, Jacek Cichocki, said he was “sure” the body was that of the missing agent. The Zielonka affair clearly embarrases Warsaw. Indeed, Zielonka was highly familiar with NATO’s encryption and codes systems."
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